When Ronan Farrow interviewed John Mayer, he wasn’t too shy to ask about Mayer’s super-famous ex, Taylor Swift, because of “professional” reasons. “Artists need the person with the loudest voice to speak for them … There’s like four people who get all the press,” Mayer says in response to Farrow, who brings up Swift staying off streaming services like Spotify. And he totally doesn’t care that other famous people are more famous than him: “Look, if I save a baby from a burning building and Kanye saves a baby from a burning building, there’s more news hits on Kanye. I’m fine with it.” He’s fine! He’s fine.