With Josh Duhamel making an appearance on The Ellen Show, how could his ex-wife Fergie’s national anthem performance not come up? While some argue that her rendition was actually “Fergalicious,” the internet mostly hated it, and even Fergie herself acknowledged that it “didn’t strike the intended tone.” But Duhamel is much softer about the whole thing. “I think that she would probably admit that it’s not her best work, but the girl is crazy talented,” he told Ellen. “She really is, and she’s an amazing woman. An amazing human being, really.” You can hear Duhamel say more nice things about Fergie in the rest of the clip.