Climbing gear? Check. Snacks? Check. Emergency contact on the outside in case you get lost and have to eat your camping buddy? Check. Orlando Bloom is ready to scale the mountain that is his relationship with a pop star. The Carnival Row actor discussed life with fiancée Katy Perry on Sunday Today, opening about his engagement and the day-to-day routine of being with someone larger than life (I mean, we’ve all seen the music videos). “She loves a big moment,” he said, referencing their helicopter-ride engagement. “I’m still trying to get her to wrestle into the small moments. The cool thing about what we’re doing — we’re learning to do the small together.” Okay, hold the phone, maybe celebrities are just like us? While Taylor Swift writes what are practically wedding vows to “magnetic force of a man” Joe Alwyn and as Miley Cyrus and Liam Hemsworth file for divorce, Katy Perry and Orlando Bloom are actually giving us … healthy relationship expectations? “I think we’re both fully aware that it’s a mountain to climb and that that mountain won’t stop, in terms of a relationship, because I think that’s what it is,” he continues. “And I love to evolve and fortunately, she does too.” As unromantic as your partner comparing your relationship to an arduous hike might be (unless you’re, like, into that), Orlando Bloom is saying he is in this relationship and willing to go full 127 Hours for it. That’s amore.